Thinking SeaWorld has gotten better? Remember "Blackfish."

We reprise the first of a two-part conversation with SeaWorld whistle blower John Hargrove. He was featured in the documentary, "Blackfish," and told his story in his New York Times best seller "Beneath the Surface,." In this conversation with host Emil Guillermo, Hargrove reflects on how he became the moral voice for orcas in captivity.

When you're done, you'll want to listen to part two here.

The PETA Podcast

PETA, the world's largest animal rights organization, is 9 million strong and growing.

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