Harvard is in the news standing up for academic freedom tied to billions of federal dollars withheld for research.

But not all science done at Harvard is groundbreaking or even worthwhile.

Some of it is just cruel and wasteful.

Animal experimenters like Harvard's Margaret Livingstone continue to spend your tax dollars on useless tests that only end up torturing and killing animals.

In this reprised episode, Dr. Katherine Roe, a former NIH researcher and now chief scientist for PETA's Laboratory Investigations Department, talks to Emil Guillermo about how researchers like Livingstone build a career on cruelty masquerading as curiosity, including her latest strobe tests with monkeys.

Yet Livingstone continues to do her job, even though more than 380 scientists from around the world, including Harvard, have condemned the cruel experiments. 

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