We just caught up with friend of the pod and Vice-Deputy of the Partido Socialista in Portugal, Joao Pina, to see how things are in an area that is currently experiencing the worst impacts of the pandemic.

You will hear echoes of Ireland in how they let down their guard. But you'll also hear that they've admitted the mistakes and taken steps, including closing their border with Spain*, that our government are still debating over.

We also discuss the recent Presidential election and Portugal passing their equivalent of the Dying with Dignity bill recently.

Don't forget: Live #COVIDWomensVoices Podcast this evening.

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