We are joined by returning guest Khalid to discuss the Occult. While strange rituals and hidden knowledge are often seen as silly, such language permeates our ways of thinking about even "scientific" knowledge. We chat about what that means for critiques of modernism and its relationship to world religions. And we get real weird with it.

Mentioned: Against the Modern World by Mark Sedgwick, Hayy ibn Yaqdhan by Ibn Tufail.

Intro music by auntie004. New outro by reiyashi.