Just Say No To The DSO

Episode 1 – What Is “Just Say No to the DSO”?


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In this episode, Bob Spiel and Nate Williams introduce their podcast "Just Say No to the DSO." They discuss their purpose, which is to persuade dental practice owners not to sell their practices to Dental Support Organizations (DSOs). Their experience is that selling to a DSO will almost always lead to making less money while losing control over their practice and life, and ultimately give industry control to non-dentist businesspeople.

They share their backgrounds, with Nate being a dental CPA and financial planner at his nationwide, multi-specialty firm with over 300 dental clients, and Bob having an MBA and 15 years of experience consulting in dentistry. Before consulting in dentistry Bob was a hospital and surgical center CEO, so he had a front row seat to the corporatization of medicine.

They emphasize that they have no financial interest in promoting this message and are dedicated to helping dentists protect their independence and the dental industry as a whole. They also outline the topics they plan to cover in upcoming episodes, such as the consequences of selling to a DSO, understanding DSO players and tactics, and the trajectory of the dental industry.

The podcast aims to provide dentists with information to make informed decisions about their practices. With any questions, please email us at [email protected].
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