Recorded over two sittings, Michael talks for a long time about how excited he is about grass. He tends not to let me talk, which is obviously beneficial. 3+ hours sounds a long time but Michael is an interesting and semi amusing person :0

I referred to Michael as the Grandfather of Rotational Grazing in Scotland in the introduction. That's very unfair as he's only a couple of years older than me - and I'm very young!! I think a more appropriate moniker should be Godfather - a bit like James Brown but with a higher pitched voice and less impressive dance moves.

Bottom line is, he was a pioneer in Scotland and though I wouldn't admit it to his face, probably should have a statue in his honour. Preferably relatively close to me so I can deface it regularly.

We are taken on a journey from Northern Ireland to the seed trade in Scotland to Lanarkshire to what is now definitely "home" and the base for https://www.damndelicious.co.uk/

The theme tune is restricted to just over a minute at the start but for personal safety reasons I have to warn you its repeated in its full 5 minute glory at the end - stay safe and don't have nightmares