This week on The Internal Comms Podcast, host Katie Macaulay is joined by a very special guest – AB's creative director, Joel O’Connor. Joel has been with AB for well over a decade, and has seen our agency and the wider internal comms space change beyond recognition.

In this rare look behind the curtains of a communications agency, the episode explores Joel’s creative process, his ideal brief, his hopes for internal comms and a look back at life growing up as a young creative in Liverpool in the ‘80s.

Tune in to unpick how to keep bringing creativity to internal comms in a world where employees' time and attention are at a premium. Hear how to ensure internal comms doesn't fade into what Joel calls 'the hum of the fridge'. And there’s fantastic insight into sharpening your creative edge (hint: get outside!) and how to get the very best from your brand and visual identity guidelines.

As always, share your thoughts on this or any other episode of The Internal Comms Podcast using the hashtag #TheICPodcast. And thanks for listening.