Episode 112 of the Lekker Rugby Pod brings the fire. MW and Harry are back together and joined by New Zealand broadcasting legend Martin Devlin, host of the Devlin Sports Podcast Network and an unapologetically passionate All Blacks supporter. From Venice to the podcast mic, Martin pulls no punches as he lays out the brutal truth about New Zealand rugby.He takes us through the decline since 2019, the haunting shadow of box kicks, the missing centurions of the 2015 era, and the burning question: are the All Blacks really still the All Blacks? Razor Robertson’s coaching, the lack of innovation, the limits of Super Rugby, and the hunger for redemption — all of it is on the table.This is raw Kiwi passion versus South African steel, as Martin squares up to MW and Harry in one of the most animated, heartfelt conversations we’ve had yet!