The conversation explores the debate between going to college or pursuing a trade, with statistics showing a decline in college enrollment and an increase in interest in the trades. The availability of student loans and the perception of different career paths play a significant role in decision-making. Union membership in the trades has been declining, and there is a growing interest in advanced degree tech schools. The use of cross-laminated timber (CLT) as a new wood product in construction is also discussed. In this conversation, Catherine and Sean discuss the use of cross-laminated timber (CLT) in construction. They explore the advantages of CLT, such as its renewable nature and lighter weight compared to steel and concrete. They also discuss the challenges and limitations of using CLT, including its current higher cost and code restrictions. The conversation transitions to a trivia segment where they ask each other questions related to construction. They reflect on the importance of allowing young adults to take time to explore different paths before committing to a career.