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Karen and Jen discuss the importance of setting S.M.A.R.T. goals and why open and honest dialogue between trainers and clients is crucial to achieving these goals. Karen and Jen offer some unique insights into their own discussions regarding budgets, time commitments and when and why to pivot when it comes to goals. Whether you are the parent to an equestrian kid, you are a rider yourself or even if you are a trainer, this episode is a must listen. 

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