The ESL Teaching Podcast

Episode 173 - Brain Science Meets the Classroom: A Conversation with Dr. Lisa Riegel


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As teachers, we are incredibly well-trained in structure, curriculum, and how to organize the day-to-day of teaching. But what about the human side of the classroom—for both our students and ourselves?

In this episode, I sit down with Lisa Riegel to explore what really drives behavior in the classroom. We go beyond strategies and into the intersection of brain science and human systems—how biology and environment work together to shape how students learn, respond, and engage.

We talk about intellectual safety, what it actually means in practice, and why it’s especially critical for English learners. We also bring the focus back to you—the teacher—as a human being navigating all of this in real time.

This conversation is both practical and reflective. It will invite you to look at your classroom—and yourself—through a new lens.


Here is What You Will Hear in This Episode:

  • How Lisa Riegel connects brain science to real classroom experiences
  • What it means to understand behavior through the lens of biology + context
  • A deeper look at intellectual safety and how it impacts English learners specifically
  • Examples of how classroom systems can either support or block student success
  • Why fulfillment and growth—both for students and teachers—come from alignment, not just effort
  • A conversation about the teacher’s internal experience and how it shapes what happens externally in the classroom


Simply Ieva  offers and resources:

  • Grab your free practice The First 7 Minutes: How to Start the Class Grounded (Even if Your Students Aren’t)
  • EL Newcomer curriculum guides:
    The EL Newcomer Teaching Compass - curriculum guide for grades 6-12
    EL Newcomer Compass: Little Learners Edition - curriculum guide for grades K-2

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Related episodes: 

  • When “You’re the Expert” Becomes Too Much: Decision Fatigue in EL Teaching
  • The First 7 Minutes: Why Your Class Needs a Better Beginning (Not a Better Lesson)


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  • https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisariegel/ 
  • https://www.epinstitute.net/ 

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