On this episode we have on musician Devin Shelton who you might know from the band Emery.
 
 We talk about life with 3 kids and how different their personalities are, coming from a big family, taking a break from Emery when he started having kids,  understanding his parents and making changes to his parenting, always having creative ideas in his head, his partnership with his wife while on tour, band life in the van and green rooms, and our love of early 2000s bands.

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