David is joined by Dr. Hunter Baker for a real walk through the kind of society we want to be and the things that are most likely to facilitate such a society. Their discussion delves deeply into what the state can and cannot do in the formation of character, and how markets reflect the character of the people. Their prescriptions for a free and virtuous people call for more freedom and more virtue, and the way we get there is the subject of this talk. A not-to-be-missed conversation.