Keith sits down with Norman Brannon to discuss the re-launch of Anti-Matter Zine, the origin of the zine, interviews Norman has done with bands like Judge and Rage Against the Machine,  leaving his parents' home at 16, becoming a Hare Krishna devotee, touring with Shelter and the evolution of hardcore and the scene over the years. We also discuss some Texas is the Reason history, the true origin of the band's name, the major label bidding war for the band, their initial breakup and reunions, New End Original, touring with Thursday, trying out for the Foo Fighters, the Anti-Matter Comp, the future of Anti-Matter and more.

Guest co-host: Artist and Pitch Black front man Martin Munroe joins Keith for the first in-person recording since 2020. We discuss Martin's move to Oakland, some Pitch Black history, signing with Revelation Records and leaving music behind to pursue life as an artist.