Keith sits down with Sammy Ciaramitaro to discuss living in Santa Cruz, officially becoming a full time musician, the formation of Drain, the band's history, performing with Gulch, releasing both the "California Cursed" LP by Drain and the "Impenetrable Cerebral Fortress" LP by Gulch in early 2020, the rise of both bands, life during the pandemic, developing healthy living habits, the story behind Gulch's legendary merch drops, the "Real Bay Shit" live show under a freeway that Drain put together with Scowl and other bands, Drain's 2023 LP "Living Proof", how Sammy learned to preserve his voice before shows and more.