On this episode we have on author Patton Dodd.

We talked about his kids getting older and now being a plane flight away, life in Texas, and  his day job helping families.  Most of this conversation was about his new book The Father you Get.  Patton had a difficult relationship with his dad.  His dad made his family move a lot, burned a lot of bridges, and Patton wrote this book about their relationship.  Patton was pretty honest about the journey of trying to learn about his father when he distanced himself from him for so long.  I also talked to Patton about the toll writing a book like this took on him, and the exhaustion of doing the audio book. 

The conversation isn’t all heavy because there’s life lessons he learned about fatherhood from this journey.  But I really appreciate Patton letting me into his mental space to discuss a book he never thought he’d write. 

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