Ann Grinstein and Suzanne Felsen are co-directors and co-owners of Gemini G.E.L., one of the most influential artists’ workshops and publishers in the world.

Founded in Los Angeles in 1966 by Stanley Grinstein, Sidney Felsen, and master printer Ken Tyler, Gemini G.E.L. has collaborated with generations of artists including Robert Rauschenberg, Jasper Johns, Roy Lichtenstein, Richard Serra, David Hockney, Ellsworth Kelly, and many others, helping expand the possibilities of printmaking, editioned works, and artistic experimentation.

In this conversation with Heidi Zuckerman, they discuss collaboration, craftsmanship, innovation, family legacy, risk-taking, and the unique relationships that develop between artists and master printers over decades of working together.

They also explore the history of Gemini, the evolution of printmaking, artistic freedom, the role of experimentation, collecting, and what it means to sustain a creative institution for sixty years.

A fascinating conversation about process, patience, trust, and the often-unseen collaborations behind some of the most important works of contemporary art.