This is episode number 248. You would think after so many episodes we would know what shaping is. In this episode we’re going to see if that is indeed the case.

Language matters and it can definitely trip us up. Does shaping mean the same thing to me as it does to you? In this conversation we are joined by Dr Claire St Peter. Claire has been a frequent guest on this podcast. She is a behavior analysts who teaches at West Virginia University. Our recent conversation with Dr Joe Layng on schedules of reinforcement generated many questions. Good conversations will do that. So we invited Claire to join us so we could continue our exploration of schedules. Our beginning point was this question: what is shaping? And how does our definition of shaping help us understand schedules of reinforcement?