In this episode I speak with Kathleen Murphy from Kathleen Murphy Landscape Design. 

Kathleen has a great story about not only working as a designer for 20 years, but also then how she pivoted to her main business now, which is Design Your Dream Garden, an online course where she teaches people how to design like she did, so that they can do their own garden or for others.

Kathleen also talks about some of the important things she discovered when designing, being the relationships with others in the industry.

You can follow Kathleen on Instagram @kmldesign_gardens

You can find out more about her online design course here, and get 20% off the regular full price using the code Joel20

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