Keith sits down with Dave Grossman to discuss his career teaching Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Rosetta, the band's history, touring China and Russia, the arduous process of recording their 2013 LP "The Anaesthete" and how the record changed things for the band moving forward, Dave's new band New Miserable Experience, their 2024 LP "Absent Lovers", the band's creative process, what's coming up for Rosetta and New Miserable Experience plus more.

Artist Spotlight: John DiGiorgio of Mean Jesus. We discuss the history of Mean Jesus and John's time in Converge during the Poacher Diaries era of the band.