Grace and Alvina discuss longevity in the publishing industry, both as an author and illustrator and as an editor, using a recent podcast episode and a Publishers Weekly article as a jumping-off point. They discuss the two main qualities authors (and editors!) need to survive in in the industry, and they also discuss how publishing jobs have diminished in the last 30 years, and how to increase your chances of survival.

They introduce a new segment called "Tell Me About..." and Alvina talks about ALL THE BOOKS by Hayley and John Rocco.

For the Fortune Cookie segment, they talk about the National Book Award finalists and the new MacArthur Foundation Fellows.

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