Joel Gay is one of the leading voices advocating for the reformation of the E-Plus Program in New Mexico. The Chapter President of New Mexico Backcountry Hunters and Anglers (BHA), Joel joins Robbie for a very thoughtful discussion on why BHA believes the E-Plus program needs to be reformed. 

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Music: Migration by Ian Post (Winter Solstice), licensed through artlist.io

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