This week’s podcast opens with a quote from our recent webinar with Dr. Susan Friedman. We were discussing a twenty year old horse that came to her new owner very shut down by force-based training. Susan ended the webinar with her recommendation for this horse - go back to pre pre-school. "This horse is not ready to learn even simple things such as targeting. How do we know this? The data tells us. The horse’s behavior tells us."

Susan’s recommendation provided the launching point for our discussion.