Grace and Alvina welcome special guest Janet Bruins, who has started her own independent publishing company, Picnic Heist. They talk about how she decided to start her pubilshing company and what steps she took to make that happen, including her mission for the company. They also discuss the reasons one might decide to publish with an independent publisher vs a larger one.

For the Fortune Cookie segment they talk about what they've been reading lately, and of course they end with sharing what they're all grateful for.

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