It's episode 3 of your favorite monthly nu-metal podcast (it's a niche genre) from Street Fight Radio's Bryan Quinby and Blocked Party's John Cullen, and this month is a doozy. Deftones are known to many as the band that crosses over a lot of fans: they're the one nu-metal band that people who hate nu-metal like, and they're the one nu-metal band that can get fervent nu-metal fans to listen to other, better music. 

After starting the episode with a lot of Korn talk spurred on by Bryan getting rejected for a Jonathan Davis interview, the POD Boys settle into the Deftones and a cross-section of topics, mostly stemming from the fact that they're aggressively uninteresting as people but insanely interesting as a musical unit. The boys talk about their very different paths to discovering Deftones, whether or not Deftones qualify as nu-metal, and Bryan unearths a clip of Chino drunk onstage at a festival in Holland that ranks up there with one of the best drunken lead singer performances of all-time. It's a long episode, but it's worth it until the end, as Bryan also makes a shocking reveal about the Deftones' song "Root" that must be heard to be believed.