Tiffany and Katy are both living in two of the epicenters of the devastating coronavirus, Italy and Washington State.

This week, they chat about their parallel but distinct experiences, how the spread of the virus is affecting their lives, what like is life in their cities, and their uncertainty about the future. Katy proposes that it might be the ideal moment for a Roman holiday.

Note: This episode was recorded a week before publication so lots of things have changed since then. We will be putting out a special mini-episode to update the situation, so look out for that in the coming days.

Check out this New York Times article by Italian journalist Beppe Severgnini that Tiffany talks about.

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