Pieter Nel is a ‘regenerative conservationist’ who works for the South African Wildlife Institute. Pieter’s job is to train people how to regenerate habitat. In this special, in depth episode, Robbie and Pieter discuss integrating people and cattle into wildlife habitat regeneration - a controversial subject that turns the ‘protectionism’ model completely on its head.

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Music: Migration by Ian Post (Winter Solstice), licensed through artlist.io

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