Keith sits down with Nick Sakes to discuss his early life in Arkansas, moving to Missouri, discovering punk and underground music, the formation of Dazzling Killmen, the band's early history, recording their debut LP "Dig Out The Switch" in a single day with Steve Albini and their breakup which occurred right before they were to tour Japan. We also discuss Nick's post-Killmen bands Colossomite and Sicbay, the recent reformation of Dazzling Killmen and how it came about, their recent run of shows, Nick's latest band Upright Forms and more.

Keith also welcomes Ben Greenberg to the show to discuss how he linked with Nick as guitar player in the newly reformed Dazzling Killmen, growing up in New York City, his early bands, how Ben developed his career as a Producer and Engineer, the formation of Uniform, the band's 2025 performance at Roadburn Festival, Ben's studio "Circular Ruin" that was opened in 2020 and more.

Intro - 0:00 - 4:44