Autism In Real Life

Episode 32: Emotional Regulation with Kari Dunn Buron, Co-Creator of The Incredible 5-Point Scale


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In this episode I got the chance to talk with Kari on emotional regulation, the Incredible 5 point scale, how the idea came about and the variety of ways this amazing tool is being used all over the world! 


KARI DUNN BURON, MS, Autism Education Specialist

Kari taught in the K-12 MN public school system with students on the autism spectrum for 30+ years, is a Past President of the Autism Society of MN, and was a founding member of the MN Autism Project.  She developed an Autism Spectrum Disorders Certificate program for educators at Hamline University in St. Paul, MN and is on the Advisory Board for the Autism Society of Trinidad and Tobago; Life College in MN and the Autism Society of MN.   In 2003, Kari received a Self-designed Fellowship that allowed her to spend a year interviewing and working internationally with a number of scientists and researchers in the area of Neuroscience, Social Cognition, Education and Autism with a focus on challenging behaviors.  Kari has presented her work both nationally and internationally and has done volunteer work related to autism in Ghana, Tanzania, Nigeria, Trinidad and Tobago, Barbados and Nepal.  In 2012, she was inducted into the Illinois State University Department of Education Hall of Fame.

Kari is the co-author of The Incredible 5-Point Scale (Revised Edition) and Social Behavior and Self-Management.  She is the author of When My Worries Get Too Big, (Revised Edition and winner of the 2013 Mom’s Choice Award, A 5 Could Make Me Lose Control and A 5 is Against the Law! (2008 ASA literary award winner).  Kari is the co-editor of a textbook for educators titled Learners on the Autism Spectrum: Preparing Highly Qualified Educators (2009 ASA literary award winner, and has written a curriculum for teachers working with students who struggle with social understanding and challenging behavior called Social Times Curriculum. Kari’s current project involves the “re-launching” of her early chapter book entitled Adalyn’s Clare.


www.5pointscale.com was developed to share information about the use of the 5-point scale and other systems to teach social and emotional concepts to individuals on the autism spectrum.

Kari is committed to positive support for all students and to the teaching of skills needed for social success. I hope my site will inform, teach, support and excite anyone looking for some good ideas.

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