This is Part 2 of a conversation with Muna Clough. I’ve wanted to have Muna on the podcast for quite a while. She’s a participant in my on-line clinics along with her Irish Draft cross, Frank. One of the first videos she sent me showed Frank rearing up at her and then snaking his head around and biting at her legs.

In the more recent videos Muna has been teaching Frank lateral work. The change in their relationship has been an absolute pleasure to watch. I wanted Muna to share with us the process she’s gone through to create this transformation. I can make suggestions, but we have an ocean separating us. It has been Muna who has done all the training. She’s created the changes that we’re seeing.

I’m always so appreciative when people share their training stories. It’s very much a pay it forward system. There’s always someone listening who is where they used to be with a horse. Sharing what worked, what they learned, the process they went through to get where they are today - all of that helps the next person who’s new to this way of training.

In this episode we talk about “hot potato” horses. These are horses with issues somebody else didn’t want to deal with so they passed the horse on to some unsuspecting person who now has to figure out what to do with the “hot potato”. I share stories of other “hot potato” horses and Muna talks about how she worked with Frank to transform their relationship.