This is part 3 of a conversation with Chirag Patel. Chirag is based in London where consults on the ethical and science-based practice of behavior management and training for animals housed in domestic, zoo, and laboratory environments. Chirag earned his BSc (Hons) in Veterinary Sciences from the Royal Veterinary College in London and a Postgraduate Certificate in Clinical Animal Behavior from the University of Lincoln, UK. He is also a certified parrot behavior consultant (CPBC) with the International Association of Animal Behavior Consultants (IAABC). Currently, Chirag is studying for a MSc in Applied Behavior Analysis.

In Part 1 talked about the up-coming March 2026 Clicker Expo. For several years now Chirag and several other faculty members have done a presentation that they call The Backstage Pass. Basically each trainer picks a dog/handler team from the audience and works with that team on stage towards a stated goal behavior.

Each team works with the trainer for a few minutes at a time, then there’s a discussion of the why’s and wherefores of the methods used. It’s an interesting presentation. You get to see different styles of training as each trainer gets to know the dog and the handler they are working with.

This year they decided to do something a little different. Instead of inviting dog specialists to participate as the trainers, they decided to ask faculty members who don’t typically work with dogs. When they asked me, for some very bizarre reason, I said yes.

Chirag will be the ring master for the backstage pass. When I’ve watched him in previous years I’ve seen that he is a very creative trainer who comes up with some inventive solutions for helping dogs and handlers to be at ease. His training style is very different from mine which for me is of interest to me.

We ended Part 1 with a question about marker signals. Often in those backstage pass demos Chirag trains with food, but he doesn’t yet use a marker signal. He described his thinking behind this strategy.

In Part 2 we began with my reasons for the choices I make related to the use of marker signals. The click in clicker training has been referred to in many ways. It is a bridge, a marker signal, a snap shot. It is very much a cue. I add yet another metaphor for the role the click plays. It is a gatekeeper. I explained what I mean by that in Part 2.

In Part 3 we add the use of chains and the role that cues play in linking behaviors together to the discussion of marker signals.