A wall too high to scale. Host Emily Yoshida and guests break down episode 4 of FX’s Shōgun. Featuring executive producer and co-creator Rachel Kondo, actor Anna Sawai "Mariko," historian Frederik Cryns and director Fred Toye. Join them as they discuss what Fuji's role as consort means, what's going on between Mariko and Blackthorne and how to bring a small fishing village like Ajiro to the screen.

Watch episode 4 of Shōgun on Hulu and FX in the U.S., Disney+ internationally and Star+ in Latin America. For a deeper look inside the show, head to the Official Shōgun Viewer’s Guide.

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