Trevor is one of the people I've learnt most from in agriculture. He became a cult hero during the QMS Grazing Group project and still comes back to the UK twice a year. He has this rare clarity of thought and expression.

In this conversation we talk a bit about him and how he got to where he did. A bit about how he feels during a farm visit. A bit about vowel pronunciation. And a lot on profitable cattle and sheep systems. All done whilst we are both in pyjamas just like Morecambe and Wise.

He didn't ask me to do this but if you are keen to get him out onto your farm on his next visit to the UK his email is [email protected]