On today's edition of the show, Eric is joined by Manabu “Hori” Horiuchi and Ryan Snyder of Katami. The guys cover a range of topics with Eric, including how Ryan and Hori-san first met, what Ryan learned early on from Hori-san, why Hori-san left for Kata Robata, the beginnings of Kata Robata, what went into the decision to evolve into doing something new with a new restaurant, what makes Katami different from Kata Robata, the big risk they took with their sake program, what Hori-san took away from his time in Japan in preparing for Katami, why dry-aging fish is a no-go for them, how customers have responded so far to Katami, the omakase experience coming to the restaurant, what the local/national recognition that Katami has received means to them, the possibility of getting a Michelin star, and more!

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