Words & Numbers

Episode 457: Weaponizing the DOJ


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In this episode, we are joined by Clark Neily, Senior Vice President for Legal Studies at the Cato Institute, to discuss the weaponization of the Department of Justice and the broader implications of plea bargaining and charge stacking in the U.S. legal system. We dive into the erosion of jury trials, the impact of coercive plea deals, and the challenges of maintaining justice and human dignity in a system increasingly reliant on non-public procedures. We also touch on the historical context of these issues and the potential for reform.


00:00 Introduction

00:31 The Efficacy of Acupuncture for Chronic Back Pain

04:54 Charlie Kirk Memorial Service

07:59 Foolishness of the Week

10:47 Clark Neily Introduction

12:38 Trump Truth Social Post

17:23 Plea Bargaining and Charge Stacking

22:44 Weaponization of the DOJ

26:00 Public Trust in DOJ Waning

28:41 The Constitution Right to a Jury Trial

30:45 The Role of the Supreme Court

36:39 Grand Jury Indictments

41:11 What’s Next for the DOJ

45:59 Historical Context and Legal Reform

49:10 The Importance of Jury Duty

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