Welcome to The Last Thing I Saw, with your host, Nicolas Rapold. First I chat with Christian Petzold, the delightful director of Transit, Phoenix, Barbara, and now Undine, which comes out June 4. Undine is about a Berlin historian(Paula Beer) who may be a figure from ancient myth. She gives regular lectures in tours of the municipal museum, and eventually she connects with an industrial diver (Franz Rogowski). This being a Petzold movie, there are layers of history and myth that haunt the main plot. I reached Petzold at his office in Berlin over Zoom, with the occasional help of a translator. Then I chat with writer and critic Bruce Bennett about the director Budd Boetticher and his tightly wound westerns. Bruce also shares insights about story mechanics from his current job: writing for a true crime TV show. Our conversation went long and was so much fun that I’m publishing it in two parts.

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Opening music: “Monserrate” by The Minarets

Photo by Steve Snodgrass