In this conversation, Luc Jackson and Britton discuss their experiences with simple church and the importance of intergenerational relationships. They talk about the joy of doing church with family and the value of including older generations in the church community. They also explore the difference between their previous experiences in traditional church settings and their current journey in simple church. Luc shares his struggle with the loss of his father and the search for a spiritual father figure. They encourage pastors on a similar journey to embrace their fears and surround themselves with wise mentors.