<div class='gmail_default'>Part two of our conversations with the senior management of Cortico, the platform for "deeper conversations".</div> <div class='gmail_default'>Featuring Deb Roy and Alex Kelly Berman.</div>

Part two of our conversations with the senior management of Cortico, the platform for "deeper conversations". Featuring Deb Roy and Alex Kelly Berman.

Episode 48 (with Deb Roy and Alex Kelly Berman)

<p>Joe Klein and John Ellis on what's happening and what happens next. Joe Klein is the author of seven books and "Sanity Clause," a Substack newsletter. John Ellis is the founder and editor of two Substack newsletters — News Items and Political News Items. The two friends have covered American politics for a combined 95 years.</p>

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Joe Klein and John Ellis on what's happening and what happens next. Joe Klein is the author of seven books and "Sanity Clause," a Substack newsletter. John Ellis is the founder and editor of two Substack newsletters — News Items and Political News Items. The two friends have covered American politics for a combined 95 years.

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