Mike Schwartz is exactly the kind of podcast guest we’re famous for - a complete, unknown stranger to you, us, and everyone in our space. You see Mike came to us after sending an email. He said he had been a fan for some time, and shared that Blood Origins was the reason he changed his opinion around hunting but was now struggling to take the next step. So rather than write about it, Robbie invited him on to talk about it, and how those perceptions changed for the better after being educated about what hunting is, who hunters are, and what this lifestyle means to us - and Mike’s own journey from ardent anti-hunter to conservationist with interest in hunting himself. His last obstacle? He struggles to get over the sadness in killing an animal, which Robbie and he dive deep into in this unforgettable heartfelt episode.

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