Five years after the world came to a grinding halt—when Italy and shortly after much of the globe went into a full or partial lockdown—Katy and Tiffany have a conversation about that unique and momentous time.

Do we really remember what it was like or are the memories vague and unreliable?

How did the pandemic and the lockdowns change our perception of time?

And have we, as a society, changed since then? Did living through a global pandemic have lasting changes, and are they positive or negative changes?

We discuss this and more on this all-new episode.

The podcast you heard about on this episode is The Europeans (a non-boring podcast about European politics!), hosted by Dominic Kraemer and Katy Lee. Find their latest episode here or wherever you listen to our show.

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