As Katy prepares to leave Rome once again, she and Tiffany muse on the 2025 Jubilee or Holy Year that has taken over Rome this year.

How does Holy Year 2025 compare to past Jubilees? And does the change of pope halfway through the year make a difference?

And what about merch? How odd is it that a Jubilee (an institution that has been occurring every quarter century in Rome for over 500 years) should have a mascot and official merch? Does that cheapen it or make it more current? And whose job is it to design the Jubilee branding?

And how has the city handled this mega-event? Has Rome been up to the task? We discuss on this episode taped on a park bench in Piazza Cavour.

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