Milenomics ² Podcast - No Annual Fee Edition

Episode 64: February 2023 Japan Trip Report


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We're just back from Tokyo and excited to share this trip report. We're up to Episode 187 on our Patreon feed but wanted to publish this here on the No Annual Fee feed since it's been a while since we've done a free show. Enjoy!

0:30 Discuss: Lots of Interest and Pent Up Demand for Japan

1:50 Premise of the Trip

  • 2 adults
  • 2 kids: 18 and 15
  • 18 is actually considered a child age in Japan for some things
  • 3:45 Panic Moment: Did I forget to buy a couple of return tickets?

    • I’ve booked and canceled this trip so many times I’ve lost count
    • Managing multiple PNRs booked across several different channels
    • Didn’t realize a couple tickets were purchased as roundtrip. Whew.
    • Discuss: How do you manage this?
    • 8:20 Airport Upgrades for JAL International Flights (Direct Link)

      • We departed Boston - Tokyo today, nonstop with 3 of us in Business Class on AsiaMiles awards and 1 of us in Premium Economy booked with JAL Miles transferred from Marriott long ago.
      • I've been monitoring award space for 1 more Business Class seat, but nothing materialized. No partner award opened up close in, and even when booking with JAL miles nothing was available at any award level.
      • A week ago they sent an option to bid on the upgrade with cash starting at $625. I passsed.
      • I called JAL a few days ago inquring about upgrades. The agent said I'd need to cancel and rebook and nothing was available in Business Class.
      • My last hope was a same day airport upgrade and...it worked!
      • When we got to the check-in counter I asked about airport upgrades with JAL miles, for my son's Premium Economy JAL Award to Business Class.
      • The agent first said Business Class was sold out, but then went to check with her supervisor.
      • She came back and said that since we booked with Cathay Pacific AsiaMiles that we couldn't upgrade.
      • But when I explained to her that I booked his ticket with JAL miles that an upgrade was possible.
      • It took 4 or 5 reps there, me recalling my JAL frequent flyer number on the spot ("write it down on this piece of paper, I'll wait"), and 30,000 JAL miles but they upgraded him.
      • I originally booked his seat for 32,500 JAL miles + $396.
      • I'd like to avoid those taxes + fees in the future, but booking JAL miles did indeed improve upgrade options as I hoped.
      • If the upgrade didn't work out, we selected seats for the rest of us at the back of Business Class with him at the front of the Premium Economy cabin.
      • That likely would have worked out quite well - it really is close with just a curtain separating.
      • But this worked out great. A good backup if you need just 1 or 2 more seats to round out an itinerary where partner/low level space isn't behaving.
      • 15:20 BA Lounge at Boston Logan

        • Quite nice
        • Not crowded for mid-day departure since not many flights
        • 16:00 Outbound Flight: JAL Business Class Nonstop to Boston

          • Wasn’t spectacular but the direct flight was just what we needed to get the whole group behind this return trip to Japan
          • No matter how you cut it: 14 hours is…a long flight.
          • 17:45 Narita Arrivals

            • Probably the most grueling international arrival I’ve experienced
            • Seemed like a ton of flights coming in at the same time
            • ...more
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