With Kabul close to collapse, Shadi and Damir argue about the nature of the multiple screwups in Afghanistan, both long-term and of more recent vintage. What exactly is Biden doing wrong? Should we stay a bit longer, and if so, to what end? And what lessons should Americans learn from all if it?

Recommended reading:

• Aris Roussinos' tweet thread.
• "Afghanistan’s Unraveling May Strike Another Blow to U.S. Credibility," by Steven Erlanger (NYT).
• Jen Murtazashvili (recently in the Washington Post).