I dunno, man - I think this mutually-agreed arrangement is a little undercooked. Mike White drops by again to discuss Raw Deal (1948), directed by Anthony Mann, and then, you guessed it, Raw Deal (1986), directed by John Irvin. Listen as we gasp in wonder at Mann's sumptuous shadowy cinematography and Arnie's enormous pectorals. What do these films have in common other than their names? Probably not a lot, but we sure have a lot of fun discussing them.

It's not really possible to spoil Raw Deal '86 because that would require you to be able to make some sense out of its plot, but we will call out Spoiler Territory for Raw Deal '48. If you want to skip ahead from that point, you can rejoin the conversation at the 1:06:02 mark to avoid spoilers.

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