In this episode of the Pastor of Pioneer podcast, Britton interviews Paul O'Brien, a former pastor turned hospice chaplain. Paul shares his journey of faith, the challenges he faced in traditional pastoral roles, and his transition to a microchurch model. He discusses the importance of community, the role of shepherding in various contexts, and the freedom he has found in his new ministry approach. Paul emphasizes the need for authentic relationships and the impact of hospitality in reaching others for Christ.