In this episode of the Pastor to Pioneer Podcast, Neal Karsten and Britton discuss the unique qualities that make pastors well-suited for pioneering new church models, as well as the challenges they face in this transition. They explore the importance of conviction, the loneliness of pioneering, and the need for detox from traditional church models. The conversation emphasizes the significance of relationships over programs and the necessity of humility and dependence on God in the pioneering journey.