Recruiting is No Joke

Episode 85: Why Return-to-Office Policies Are Failing: Dell’s Latest Misstep and Empathy in Layoffs


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Is the return-to-office trend finally losing steam? In this week’s episode, Joel Lalgee tackles a growing corporate misstep as companies like Dell struggle with flawed return-to-office policies that penalize parents and strain employee well-being. You’ll also hear a rare, heartwarming layoff story—yes, you read that right! Joel highlights how empathy can turn even the toughest moments into opportunities for growth.

As Gen Z loses faith in traditional college paths, there’s a growing movement towards skilled trades. Joel dives into why more young people are choosing hands-on careers and how industries like construction are evolving to meet the demand. Plus, if you’re juggling multiple jobs or considering a side hustle, you’re not alone. Joel breaks down the rise in multi-job holders and what it means for the future of the workforce.

Tune in for raw takes on the future of work, the return of layoffs, and why flexibility isn’t just a perk—it’s a necessity. Whether you’re a recruiter, job seeker, or curious about the trends reshaping work, this episode offers insights that will keep you ahead of the curve.

In this episode:

00:04: Introduction to the episode

00:37: Overview of the week's episode

01:07: Meet the host, Joel Algee

01:35: New segment announcement and how to stay in touch

02:27: Sponsor message: Source Whale

03:58: Feel-good moment: Layoff with empathy

08:21: Thoughts on the return to office policies

13:42: Dell's childcare policy controversy

16:20: Final thoughts and call for feedback

16:36: Teens losing faith in college and rise in skilled trades

17:28: Rise in Vocational Programs

20:26: Introduction to Multiple Job Holders

22:31: Conclusion and Closing Remarks

About Joel Lalgee 

Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.


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