They’ve been called the brains behind a viral Springbok move. They coach at one of the most famous schools in South African rugby. And they’ve spoken to everyone under the sun… but never like this.In Episode 92 of the Lekker Rugby Pod, Harry Jones brings something different to the table – and De Wet Marais and Erhardt Muth deliver. This conversation goes far beyond the now-famous Paul Roos lineout play. It’s a deep, hilarious, and sometimes brutally honest look at what it takes to coach rugby the right way, to think differently, and to lead with trust.From farming principles to NFL passing patterns, from bunkbed coaching sessions at 1am to moves that make it to Test level – this is rugby thinking in its purest form.No script. No repetition. Just the real story, finally.