Jack Hitt's Off the Road: A Modern-day Walk Down the Pilgrim's Route into Spain is one of the earliest English-language pilgrimage accounts from the contemporary resurgence of the Camino, focused on Jack's walk in 1991. It also became a source of inspiration for Emilio Estevez's film, The Way, and readers of the book will quickly recognize characters and patches of dialogue in the movie. Jack offers a number of reflections on his experiences on the Camino in 1981, 1991, and 2013, as well as some insights into the nature and meaning of pilgrimage. The episode also features an interview with Jessica Johnson, who has walked the Francés, Norte, Primitivo, Salvador, and Portugués, and is now planning a pilgrimage on the Camino Ignaciano. Our conversation focuses on the issue of safety along the Camino, and particularly for solo women travelers.