Today’s episode features two separate 125-pounders of opposite genders in women’s flyweight Erin Blanchfield and men’s UFC champion Alexandre Pantoja.

Blanchfield walks through what went wrong in her recent loss to Manon Fiorot before sharing her views on jiu-jitsu tournaments. The New Jersey native wraps up her interview with thoughts on the type of fight we can expect in the high-stakes trilogy between current women’s flyweight champion Alexa Grasso and Valentina Shevchenko in a few weeks at UFC 306.

Feeling re-energized by a small but much-needed break, Pantoja takes a look down from his throne atop the men’s flyweight division to assess the depth of the talent pool with the intent of figuring out if Kai Kara-France has the strongest case for the shot to compete for his belt.